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Counsel to Counsel is a podcast for attorneys who are looking for insights to help increase their overall career satisfaction.  You can find it on iTunes, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.  You can also listen to episodes from this home page.  In each episode, I introduce you to consultants who have been shaping the legal industry and attorneys who have done interesting and sometimes unconventional things with their careers.  My guests will share with you tips on how to achieve greater career and marketing success. Some will talk about the ways they have built fulfilling careers outside of the practice. Through this series, I hope to identify ways that you can find more happiness as a lawyer.  If you'd like to learn more about me, I invite you to visit my website at  There you will find links to my blog and to many career and marketing resources.  If you like this show, please review it on iTunes. Your comments are always welcome.  Feel free to reach out to me at if you'd like to discuss your own career or marketing concerns.  I'm always happy to speak with lawyers about their careers and I enjoy talking about marketing.

Oct 25, 2020

Many attorneys I speak with think about transitioning to an in-house role at some point in their career.  For some lawyers, the path to in-house is planned and deliberate.  But for many lawyers, in-house opportunities arise through serendipity.  That is what happened to my guest in this episode.

Jonathan Moll, had a long and successful career in private practice.  But by developing an expertise in education, a great in-house opportunity arose with one of his clients and he seized the moment.

Jonathan and I  talk about what drew him to education and how early on, he developed an early niche in crisis management.  He also talks about taking advantage of the opportunities that come your way and what he is doing now in the latest stage in his career.

Jonathan is someone who has always been very generous to me with his time.  He has always been willing to be a sounding board and I’ve benefited a lot from his career wisdom.  He currently serves a General Counsel to Arx Urban, a real estate development company run by his two sons.