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Counsel to Counsel is a podcast for attorneys who are looking for insights to help increase their overall career satisfaction.  You can find it on iTunes, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.  You can also listen to episodes from this home page.  In each episode, I introduce you to consultants who have been shaping the legal industry and attorneys who have done interesting and sometimes unconventional things with their careers.  My guests will share with you tips on how to achieve greater career and marketing success. Some will talk about the ways they have built fulfilling careers outside of the practice. Through this series, I hope to identify ways that you can find more happiness as a lawyer.  If you'd like to learn more about me, I invite you to visit my website at www.seckler.com.  There you will find links to my blog and to many career and marketing resources.  If you like this show, please review it on iTunes. Your comments are always welcome.  Feel free to reach out to me at legal@seckler.com if you'd like to discuss your own career or marketing concerns.  I'm always happy to speak with lawyers about their careers and I enjoy talking about marketing.

Nov 20, 2020

Many lawyers choose public service early in their careers.  In a public agency, attorneys may find that they are getting more responsibility than they might get at the same stage in private practice.  Assistant district attorneys, for example, find themselves trying cases almost from day one.  Lawyers working for agencies that regulate industry may be given a lot more responsibility for crafting policy than they might otherwise be exposed to as an associate at a law firm.

But salaries in the public sector generally lag far behind salaries in private practice and for many lawyers, the career path often runs from government into the private sector.

In truth, there are many opportunities for lawyers who are further along in their careers to move in the other direction.  At the highest levels of government, politicians often turn to the most successful attorneys in private practice to head agencies or craft policy later in their career.  For these senior lawyers, it is a win-win.  It is a chance to give back and find another burst of career satisfaction at a time in life when the economics are less important.

My guest in this episode, Rich Johnston, did just that in 2015.  After a long and successful career as a litigator at Wilmer Hale (a firm that was Hale and Dorr for most of his professional life), Rich was brought on by Maura Healey, the Attorney General of Massachusetts, to be her Chief Legal Counsel.

In this episode, I speak with Rich about his path to the Attorney General’s Office, what he loves about public service, and advice he has for lawyers thinking about making a move like this after a lengthy law firm career.

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