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Counsel to Counsel is a podcast for attorneys who are looking for insights to help increase their overall career satisfaction.  You can find it on iTunes, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.  You can also listen to episodes from this home page.  In each episode, I introduce you to consultants who have been shaping the legal industry and attorneys who have done interesting and sometimes unconventional things with their careers.  My guests will share with you tips on how to achieve greater career and marketing success.

Apr 23, 2025

In this episode, Steve speaks with the administrative team at the NALP Foundation, a nonprofit research organization focused on the advancement of the legal profession. They explore recent data on associate hiring, attrition, and retention—highlighting what lawyers can learn from these trends to shape more satisfying careers.

đź’ˇ Topics Covered:

  • Why lawyers are leaving law firms—and why some are choosing to stay

  • The top factors driving associate retention (hint: it’s not just about money)

  • What the research says about generational differences and shifting career expectations

  • How to use data to be more intentional about your career development

  • Advice for lawyers feeling disengaged or considering alternative paths

🎧 Whether you're early in your legal career or at a crossroads, this episode offers practical insights for anyone looking to navigate a more fulfilling professional path.